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Have your say in distance debate

Distance Measuring Devices
How far do we want the ball to go?

Golf’s governing bodies have upped the ante in trying to answer the seemingly eternal “distance debate”.

The R&A and the USGA overnight launched their combined “Distance Insights” project to “analyse distance in golf and gather perspectives from the worldwide golf community”.

From today, anyone interested can provide feedback by visiting or or by emailing either organisation directly.

The Distance Insights project, they say, will examine distance through a multi-pronged approach that includes global stakeholder engagement, third-party data review and primary research.

Focus groups and discussion forums will play an important role in the project to secure a broad range of perspectives throughout golf.

“Distance in golf is a complex issue which is widely debated at all levels of the sport,” R&A chief executive Martin Slumbers said.

“It is important that we collate all of the relevant data and hear the many different perspectives on this issue that exist in the international golf community. We intend to conduct this process openly, comprehensively and promptly and will work with all of the key stakeholders to ensure we have a fully rounded view of distance and its implications.”

USGA chief executive Mike Davis said the topic of increased distance and its effects on the game had been discussed for “well over a century”.

“We believe that now is the time to examine this topic through a very wide and long lens, knowing it is critical to the future of the game,” Davis said.

“We look forward to delving deeply into this topic and learning more, led by doing right by golf, first and foremost.”

Stakeholder groups invited to participate in the project include amateur and professional golfers, worldwide professional tours, golf course owners and operators, golf equipment manufacturers, golf course architects, golf course managers and others.

Among the many topics to be explored, the organisations will seek distance-related data on pace of play, golf course construction and maintenance practices, the evolution of equipment, golf course design and player enjoyment and participation.

The R&A and USGA plan to deliver their combined report on the project during 2019.


Posted by Bruce Rundle at
30/11/2018 10:50 AM
I see no reason distance measuring equipment shouldn't be used. There are markers at 100m, 150m, 200m, and then caddies who work it out for the pros anyway, so its not as if the pros work it out themselves anyway. And considering they have a book telling them every little slope on the green...what advantage is it really thought they would get by letting them know the distance?
Posted by rj at
25/11/2018 10:20 AM
love to have a rangefinder at 80 odd but cannot afford the overpriced units for sale !
Posted by daryl holmes at
24/11/2018 12:24 AM
I feel that the Range finder is important it will inform on the distance . You still have to have the ability to judge the shot. The introduction of the Large Golf ball added extra distance now with the development of the componetry of the ball than additional distance is there for those that have the ability. With the Pro tour it would help speed up play because there would not be the need to discuss the distance one sighting would allow the club selection and exercution of the shot. I am amazed at how far top amatures can hit the golf ball however nostmserious golfers are noe atheletes weight training and endless practise and the ability to have their club selection tailored by swing analysis to match apyion launch angle etc must result in improvement. If you restrich the advancement you could be libal for allowing the existing pro to earn a living The arguements are endless Normally its not how far you hit the bal its around and on the green that will determing the winner most of the times Take a look at fairways in regulation + distance V putts per roung and i know who will be at the top of the teader board Great Golfing all
Posted by Russell Evans at
21/11/2018 06:42 PM
GPS and laser devices would be almost impossible to ban. Banning an obvious GPS or laser is one thing, but mobile phones and devices which look like a watch will make such a rule almost impossible to police and enforce - and thus will breed mistrust between players (which has always been a key feature of this great game). Reducing distance by emphasising skill is needed. Use of more dog legs in course design (but that will take time). Adding bunkers on straight holes at strategic distances will help, as will well placed swales and slopes running off the fairways at distances like 250 - 300 metres from the tee. Such changes would require more skill in second shot club selection and deciding whether to lay up and then chip on close to the pin. The answer has to lie in working with the modern equipment, not banning it. That said, ball characteristics should be frozen at today's performance features.
Posted by Peter at
14/11/2018 09:26 PM
All measuring devices should be banned,they are taking the skill out of the game,nearly all courses have distance pegs or markers on each hole,I find this is enough information.Put some skill back into the game,also please remove this stupid handicapping system,which favours the longer marker.
Posted by Jeff Browning at
13/11/2018 05:54 PM
in car racing and bike racing it is called a regulated tyre, regulate the golf ball. Provide the ball to all players for the tournament, how easy is that, use this or don't play!
Posted by David at
12/11/2018 03:50 PM
I agree with all the comments about the equipment, particularly the ball, being limited for the Pro game. The Pros hit it much further now (400+ yards for DJ) and were destroying golf courses, so they have had to take the tees farther and farther back. The result is that many ‘skilful’ players (Zach etc) cant compete on some courses, and more and more of the elite juniors that become the Pros are ‘power’ hitting athletes. While it is good for the Amateurs like me, I can see that it is bad for the Pro game and those coming into it. Remember how DJ became the best in the world? He learned how to hit a wedge and to putt! BUT – he was already a Pro and had won a few times. That is the problem now – guys with the power are making it as Pros and they cant chip or putt – and they dont need to because they can hit it so far and give themselves lost of opportunities. I can hit the ball with a driver at 60 further than I could at 30 - fact. Whilst some of that is from learning the swing more, most of it is the ball and the club – fact. I played with a PGA winner in a Pro-Am when I was younger, and when I did hit it in middle and straight (a few times) I was about the same length. The equipment used in the Pro game needs to be ‘speed limited’ – you cant stop them going to the Gym, but you can give the less powerful and more skilful some advantage back. With regards to the GPS and Rangefinders, I think that the Pros should all be given the same GPS units and that is all they are allowed to use – and no green maps. No more pacing out etc etc etc – that started with Jack and it should finish now. The Pros are taking too long to play a round because they take forever to play a shot – because they are allowed to – introduce shot clocks in all Pro tournaments (like they did in Billiards/Pool because it was taking far too long). Hey - they play for serious money, so they take their time over every shot. But they will adjust to the clock – just like the Pro billiards/po
Posted by Dennis Dobin at
05/11/2018 09:56 PM
Firstly the equipment used in the modern game has giving the average golfer,that being the older average golfer a opportunity to compete,played golf with a 84 yr old guy the other day and he reached 500 meter par 5 in regulation,no way could he have achieved that at his age 30 yr ago,now that for this man is great, able to compete and get out and enjoy golf and life.But should this equipment be available to the pro's, or should they have to use equipment to limit their advantage over the golf course? From what I have observed the pro's make all their birdies and eagle from their medium to short game, so regardless weather they hit a ball extra long its their short game and recovery that brings home the bacon. As for GPS and markers, well the cat out of the bag,I personal have a good idea how far I hit most of my clubs,I then look at the target and measure of the shot by having imaginary swings ,start with my wedge and working down to the club that is required ti reach the target,I have on many occasions told my playing partner what I thought the distance was and had him confirm it with his GPS,I"m always very close,but who going to bother to do some like that when they have toys to do it for them?At the end of the day you can have all the modern equipment and golfing aids, but if your just a golf tragic,they will not win you a lot of games if any,but if they help the average tragic enjoy his game and keeps him play golf bring them on big time.
Posted by Rod de Beer at
29/10/2018 06:04 PM
We regularly play our 6000m+ course in 3hrs +/-5 min. That's 4 players: 3 using rangefinders and phone apps and one without; handicap range 8-27, any format (stableford, stoke, par). Similarly, 3 players 2hr40, 2 players 2hr20. Any 'ready golf' group can do this & still win fair share of comps & balls.
Posted by Bruce Davidson at
28/10/2018 09:20 AM
To those anti-rangefinder types who think these devices are slowing play....are you serious? What sort of time continuum do you people live in? My average time to pluck my rangefinder (Bushnell Tour V4) from my bag, and find my distance is under 9 seconds. Repeat.... under 9 seconds.(timed with phone stopwatch app.) What feels like slow play to most is when players are waiting on the group ahead to clear the green, or scratching around for lost balls or using a poor understanding of 'ready golf'. Usually these delays last longer than 9 seconds in my experience. Can't say that I've noticed non 'distance - aided' golfers being more accurate at hitting greens, either. All things being equal, they seem to have as many duffed shots as the rest of us. In a game with so many variables (ball lies, weather conditions, course conditions, mental, physical & emotional state etc... ) some folks just simply like to have a least one constant there to work with! Next thing you know, people will be wanting to ban speedos in cars on the basis that a good driver should be able to judge whether they are driving too fast or too slow!! Might just be a case of 'live and let live' here.
Posted by John at
24/10/2018 02:06 PM
Interesting that I heard the USGA state that amateurs (I guess in the US) were not hitting the ball any further than 10 years ago. I'm now 66 (16hcp) and driving it as far (sometimes further) that when I was 46 (5hcp) and recently got the same observation from a Pro. So clearly enough has changed with balls and drivers to produce this result. Interestingly, I'm not hitting my irons any further (when I account for cheating club manufacturers who rebadge a 6 iron as a 7). Last point ... the genie is out of the bottle and there is no perfect solution.
Posted by John Plenty at
17/10/2018 12:30 PM
Totally agree with Nicklaus and Thompson otherwise we will not have enough real estate to build golf courses. Get some skill back in the game.
Posted by A.H at
15/10/2018 04:10 PM
Been playing golf for 60 odd years.When I first started ,and well into the late 60's,there were no distance indicators on most courses.make the game,a game of skill.You had to stand by you judgement.Laser and GPS should not be allowed by ALL golfers.(time consuming) I agree with the comments re restricting the distance balls can be hit,and serious consideration given to the design of equipment that allows this. Thompson and Nicklaus had the right idea.
Posted by ian godsell at
14/10/2018 09:36 PM
I think the Rangefinders in particular are slowing down the game and the decision-making process; taking some longer to get a fix on the pin and for most of them what does it matter if it is 155m or 162m? Most can't hit the green anyway but have taken another 30 sec to think about it and it does not take the wind factor into account anyway which can add/subtract one or two clubs. Moreover I am sick of players standing on the 100m marker with the pin in the middle of the green still measuring it off. Oh! It's 99 m well bless my soul! Whoosh, OMG it's 20m left into the rough beside the green. Let's get the rangefinder out again, seeing we have it; we must use it!! Spare me.
Posted by Bob at
28/09/2018 12:59 PM
There IS a problem - in the last 10 years (post Tiger) the Pro game has become all about power and less about skill. Rory McIlroy would not make it in juniors now - he was too small. This has resulted in most new Pros being athletes first and skill second - this should be allowed to continue or golf will be like tennis is now. No offence, but those big hitting guys are boring and have no personality - Ok that a few are there but when it is mandatory that a 15 year old be 6 foot plus, then the Pro game is doomed. Answer is to further limit the equipment, but the real problem is the ball. The modern ball can be smashed at 160mph and it goes straight even with a mishit. Do that with the ball Jack played with and it will end up in another post/zipcode. Pro balls should have a minimum spin rate and a maximum dimple number and design and they have a maximum hardness level. That will put the balance back in favour of the skillful players, but still allow the athletes to compete. It should be done with a minimum of 3 years notice, and the players will complain, but just like the anchor putters were banned, the balls that favour power over skill must be banned. The Pro game should not only be played by athletes as tall as Tony F or as strong as Brooks K - that is where the Pro game is going with these power power distance hitters.
Posted by Peter at
26/09/2018 04:17 PM
This is an issue for the elite ... I hit it further with my old small headed driver and a tour balata (250-260m) back when...(hcp 5) , then I do now (230-240) with all the modern tech (hcp 7) and I hit it longer than 95% of members I go round with . Simple solution - make the sweet spot on the fairway (ie the wide landing area) 200 - 250m out ..and tighten it up as you go further - wont hut club golfers but make the pro's think rather than blast their way around... Now although this is not about measuring tech ...since everyone has chimed in anyways ...don't need em - never had one in 47 years of playing and never will - if you can’t count you steps as you go past the distance markers towards your ball , or gauge how far you are from the 150 or 100 when your between them by eye ...then give it a miss ...and if your further back than the 150 then you can judge by simple look (ie you only need to ascertain the 30 – 40 meters from you to the 150 marker) , ... it don't matter 90% of you won’t reach the green from there (190+). But GPS does speed things up for some if they have gone on safari … If you want to look/act like a wanker …get yourself a laser
Posted by julie Michelmore at
24/09/2018 04:32 PM
Great idea, finally we can have stats on distance from everyday golfers if enough people add data. As a golf rater, we need to know how far the scratch and bogey golfer hit the ball, so we can determine the obstacles they may encounter. Send in your data!
Posted by John Fletcher at
20/09/2018 06:23 PM
Golf is and always has been a game of skill. GPS devices identifying distance required no skill. It is time cosumming and offers no intellectual calculation to operate. Has no place in our awesome game. Cheers👍
Posted by John at
31/08/2018 06:38 AM
The distance issue is only relevant to the elite. Even the data from the R&A and USGA show that it is the top 10% of even the professional ranks that hit the ball exceedingly long. Not the Zac Johnsons, (who is a prolific winner still) etc. I still need a handicap as do the majority of golfers on the planet, meaning even if the ball is going further for us (debatable) the course is still winning. In all sports the elite are getting better, hence records consistently being broken but for the majority of participants, including the professionals, we don't break records or hit it too far. I doubt a larger golf ball (Glen Haynes) will impact round times at all, as I have aged I have lost 20 meters off my drive and still my round of golf is the same time, if not longer as on some par fours I struggle to reach in two. That means a longer round not quicker if anything. I watch the professional golfers for their skill and distance not to hit it the same as a weekend golfer. The pros are just more athletic then ever before. Geoffrey O'brien, you got it exactly right! Commentators on golf consistently talk about the length of drives, but if you look carefully, it is the same handful players, (Dustin, Adam, Brooks etc) not the entire field. The course can be tightened at that distance rather then lengthened, meaning a longer drive may be more dangerous instead. Problem solved.
Posted by Michael Costello at
27/08/2018 04:29 PM
This issue raises many more questions than answers. Here are three. Firstly, is golf a game for the affluent who can afford fancy technology or is it a game for all comers? Secondly, knowing the actual distance how many average players can actually hit a 75m pitch or a 145m mid iron? Thirdly, what is wrong with the existing red and blue fixed distance markers on the longer holes? Golf should always be a game of skill and judgement. Ban all GPS golf devices!
Posted by Glen Haynes at
12/08/2018 05:41 AM
My idea is to make the golf ball bigger. This would have several immediate benefits. The pro's wouldn't be able to hit as far and those new to the game will be able to flight their shots more easily. We all want shorter round times and more fun. Golf is hard for the majority and the gap between amateur and professional golf is widening. This one change would effectively shorten golf courses and round times. It would also encourage beginners, juniors and women golfers. The answer isn't to have a different ball for pro's, we need to level the playing field. I propose a change 1:68" diameter golf balls to approximately 1:75". I'm sure the R&A & USGA can come up with some testing to work out the optimal size for a ball, which helps the beginner and reduces the distance the pro's hit the ball. If these bodies decide we need a slightly larger golf hole to accommodate a new ball, so be it, even quicker rounds.
Posted by John Neeson at
26/07/2018 03:50 PM
All those numpties who commented about GPS/Lasers - try reading the article. There is no doubt in my mind that technology-fueled distance has been injurious to the game. Classic courses have been made obsolete. The world population has tripled since I was born yet golf seeks to expand its footprint endlessly, with all the associated environmental damage. Longer courses take longer to play, yet the officials worry that people have less time and shorter attention spans. At 64, I now hit the ball further than I did at 25. But I sometimes play with a 55kg kid who flies it past me. With persimmon and balata, 230m was a big drive. Now the pros can hit a 3 iron that far. Officials have lost control of equipment and have reacted at snails pace to things like the broomstick putting implement, (which isn't a putter). All distance is relative. If the longest players were driving it 250m instead of 300m, the rest of us would be scaled back accordingly and would actually be closer to the pros in terms of absolute distance differential. It would be a quicker game, fewer balls lost, fewer houses struck from the tee, fewer safety nets. I could go on but I won't because they are too busy drinking their G&Ts in Golf Place to do anything about it.
Posted by norm burne at
19/07/2018 03:20 PM
having the ball flying miles is not an issue for ordinary players, only the pros leave the courses the length they are and tighten the landing areas so that the pros have to play out of thick grass and they will very quickly learn to throttle back. golf for the masses has to remain fun or we won't have anyone playing it shortly so stop trying to doctor courses to solve a problem that doesn't really exist
Posted by Michael Todd at
16/07/2018 04:56 PM
The photo is of a spectator needing binoculars because the ball has been hit so far. I am getting back into golf after 12 years without playing at all. I am hitting it a fair bit further even though I am nearly 60 so scoring is easier than before. Average age of players is much higher than before and many people say that very few young people are taking up the sport. This seems like a crisis. We need to make the game cheaper, more fun and more accessible for people to take up. Otherwise in say 20 years time golf will be very different. So many people use carts and distance devices and are hitting the ball 10% further now but it has not sped up play. People seem much less interested in the rules and in etiquette. I see zero reason why a group of 4 people cannot play golf in 4 hours. I think we all watch the pros too much and spend all this time studying putts. I am for making the low handicapper in the group responsible for speeding things up and monitoring speed of play every 3 holes to make sure that they have been played in under 40 minutes. Hopefully the new rules will help with this
Posted by Geoffrey O'Brien at
10/07/2018 08:31 PM
I think that the governing bodies will just miss the point, as per usual. There are four key components to how far the players are driving the ball. The first is the condition of the golf courses. There is no comparison between the average condition of a tour course during tournament play and the condition of the course that we week-end amateurs play. The fairway grass is cut much, much tighter on tour than it was ever cut 30 years ago. This really helps on the run-out, especially with low-spin bombs. The second is the ball. The ball is longer than it used to be, but not of itself ridiculously longer. It is a lot more consistent however and more solid and durable and can be hit as hard as possible and still not go out of shape. However, combined with the third input, the clubs themselves, the ball goes a long way in the hands of a tour professional. The modern drivers help the tour pros a lot - but the statistics show that the driving distance for the average player has not increased much over the last 25 years. I certainly haven't heard any complaints that my 60 year old mates are now "overpowering" the local courses. Finally, the under-reported variable, the pros themselves. The modern equipment and fitness regimes have allowed the average modern pro to be a lot taller and much fitter (and fit for purposes) than the "ideal" 5 foot nine or ten guys of 40 years ago. It is now a truly athletic game at the highest level and it did not used to be. So what is the fix? Well, the biggest problem in all of golf and the one that threatens its future is SLOW PLAY. No average golfer wants to be beaten up for 5 hours on Sunday on a 7,000 m monster that is designed to combat DJ or Day, not Bruce the 18 marker. Seriously! So do stuff to make golf faster, as a guiding principle. Laser range finders? Well they should absolutely be allowed on tour or at the local club, unless we want to keep watching the caddies endlessly debate whether it is 217
Posted by Geoffrey O'Brien at
10/07/2018 08:00 PM
Posted by jeff at
09/07/2018 10:34 AM
I find any distance aid great. It speeds up my game just by knowing the distance. Whether my skill level is up to the task doesn't matter. On the downside though if you leave it at home you get a quick wake up call on just how dependant you've become.
Posted by Glenn H at
03/07/2018 06:31 PM
It appears the only way to attack increased distance at the top level is the ball. But how? We already have a maximum launch velocity, which took the ball makers about 3 months to make irrelevant by optimising launch angle, multiple spin rates and aerodynamics. A single "pro ball" has been suggested by some, but how do we avoid disadvantaging players whose game is poorly suited to that particular ball compare to players who are well suited to it?
Posted by greg nichol at
01/07/2018 05:25 PM
can some of the new rules be implemented early under the disguise of a local rule, to prepare members for the change
Posted by Robert Andrews at
29/06/2018 08:14 AM
I agree with the comments regarding GPS units they help play move along at an appropriate pace. Lasers just waste time as a lot of players who use them are high handicappers and usually have no idea how far they are going to hit the ball anyway. I don't use either and still rely on the fairway markers, most times I am not too far off the mark as far as distance is concerned, accuracy is another thing if only we had a device for this part of the game.
Posted by Paul Crain at
24/05/2018 08:44 AM
If the pros are hitting the ball longer why are they taking 5-6 hrs? So will the ball modification change this? Probably not. Changing tournament courses to make them harder with rough you cannot drive a 4WD through, and tee boxes back an extra 60-80 metres not only slows the game down but encourages players to get more distance and accuracy through equipment and hi tech golf ball development. Her is a radical idea.....why not shorten the hole by moving the tees forward so that driver is not the answer every hole, maybe the fairways could be hard and fast or even slow so that driving the ball is fraught with uncertainty. Yep, stop letting technology and the Pros dictating the way the game is played. Let them play like the rest of us non-elite golfing madmen do every weekend where even our 70 year old plus golfers get back to the club house in 4 to 4 1/2 hours! The technology is not the problem, it is the attitude of the egotistical US PGA administration and its pristine, carpet like fairways golf courses. Oh, and get rid of the caddie lining up shots and make the golfer alone make the decision. Equipment advances are not the problem! Maybe the people running the game are?
Posted by Glynn at
22/05/2018 08:13 AM
There are two areas I see - I see this primarily applying to Professional Golf. 1. Ball and club R & D. 2 GPS and Laser Techology 1. Ball and club R & D. I had to stop playing golf for 7 years and when i returned I was shocked at the extra length I was getting and the only change was the ball. I think that golf ball development needs to be limited as it ii making what used to be difficult course easy and the last thing I want to see is old historic course trying to be lengthened. What I can see happening in the future is these course making some Par 4's par 3's and Par 5's Par 4's. Club design has also got allot to do with this as bigger heads and more forgiving clubs mean more accuracy. Whats this has allowed is the increase in shaft length which when combine with the ball technology makes hitting the ball allot further. I would suggest that the Pros should be limited to a maximum shaft length similar to those prior to the introduction on huge headed drivers. 2. GPS and Laser Technology. Anything that speeds up play I fully support. Even though I like the idea of it all coming down to skill, today 99.99% of pros will be able to tell you withing a less than a yard the distance to the flag. So instead of them spending 2-3 minutes working out the distance manually a laser would simply make it quicker. But no SLOPE or WIND compensation should be allowed. Lastly, the one technology I do not think should be allowed in golf is Green Mapping. A golfer should need to rely on skill to read a green not look at a piece of paper that shows all the breaks. This is generally not available for an amateur golfer and should not be allowed in professional golf.
Posted by Lew at
21/05/2018 04:53 PM
The golf ball the professional uses should be designed to go less distance. All manufacturers could produce a ball with the agreed specifications for there stable of professionals.I understand the performance of the driver is now at its optimum level.This will protect the famous courses around the world that represent the history of golf.
Posted by AJ at
21/05/2018 04:39 PM
I'm not really fussed on the distance thing, I have no problem with manufacturers trying to make the ball go further. Just make the courses penalise you harder for getting it wrong. Pro's driving the ball 300+ all the time isn't an issue, having a paddock to aim for is. Make the rough ROUGH and narrow the fairways and the pro's will have to start thinking about strategy more than distance.
Posted by Peter Weire at
21/05/2018 02:23 PM
GPS devices should be allowed. Laser devices should be banned. Neither unit should ever be allowed in Pro or elite Amateur events ever.
Posted by Gordon Cazalet-Smith at
21/05/2018 05:30 AM
I don't really understand why the governing bodies really reduce the c.o.r. on all hollow bodied clubs The reason that courses are becoming longer and longer seems to be down to driving distances and the modern golf ball pretty easy really.
Posted by Dave Moran at
20/05/2018 08:03 PM
The image is confusing. The article is about golf ball technology and how far professionals are hitting the balls and not about GPS or laser distance devices. I agree with using a different ball/ control ball for professionals is something worth considering but i also think the use of GPS or laser devices should be discussed for professional events also.
Posted by Greg at
20/05/2018 06:45 PM
Well a lot of the answers above are not going to speed the game up. I for one is in favor of distance devices and they should also be allowed to use slope as well. I remember the days when every one was pacing off yardages and that got really slow. These devices are helpful and make the game more enjoyable. You only have to see how long it takes a pro to get back on course when they pace out yardages imagine a bunch of hackers doing the same, give us all a break. 100m in is where golf begins and I have seen it all red white and blue flags,players walking the the distance,good players need to know yardage so as to select the right club chip and run pitch and release pitch and check. These are all skills required guessing only adds another shot.
Posted by Chris Penn at
20/05/2018 12:53 PM
I feel range finders and gps systems actually speeds up my play. It allows me to know exactly wich club i need to use, were I've seen other players toing and froing trying to decide the distance and then guessing wich club to use.
Posted by Mark Lawrence at
20/05/2018 12:47 PM
I get all the cost issues related to the length the Professionals hit the ball....good reasons to think about throttling back the pro game. But the manufacturers will have to find another way to market new clubs. They won't like it.But I also find I am not relating to the spectacle. I find myself becoming disenchanted with driver/7 iron par 5s and another well thought out driver/wedge long par 4. The game is chess on grass for most of us. I would like to see a field of quality players having the same challenges.
Posted by Peter Bennett at
20/05/2018 07:16 AM
The horse has bolted. Today's pro has little in common with club golfers who keep the game alive. I prefer to watch the ladies whose golf is more atuned to the reality of everyday golf. Pace of play is a massive problem..watching Jordan Spieths endless practice swings and prevarications is just so boring. The pro ball must be re regulated as Nicklaus and Thompson advocated so many years ago, but that would be a lawyers picnic. As for measuring devices, take one of those devotees to a blank paddock and ask them to hit 3 to 87 yards, another to 109 and the third to 133. Good luck! It's still a great game if you stick to the basics. Its future is hampered by the lack of foresightful administration. Get a move on, you're on the tee.
Posted by Tony Dick at
19/05/2018 04:21 PM
For me, I find the GPS attached to my wrist actually speeds up my game. Walking to my ball I can glance at the distance to see how far it is to the front of the green and have the right (for me) club out as my buggy stops. Trying to guess yardage usually takes longer. Is it 120 metres or 130...can't see any posts...take a guess...I tend to agree laser finders can be slow but please don't take away my wrist-born gps.
Posted by Bryan Burrows at
19/05/2018 03:44 PM
Guys, even if we know the distance to the millimetre, it doesn't help us hit that ball! I coach golf and most of these golfers could never hit a ball on the range to any accuracy, to the same distance with the same club. single handicappers would have the talent but they don't need to use them! Give the average golfer a chance to enjoy the game and range finders would possibly make them think about going to the range to get practice with their clubs, get accurate distances with the balls they hit while practicing and get some exercise! lol
Posted by Brian Cox at
19/05/2018 08:59 AM
Some comments have missed the point of the proposed revue.Maybe they have been mislead by the misleading photo at the top of the post.Distance of ball flight not distance measuring.But I do agree, some players do check the distance when very close to the hole but cant hit it out of their shadow.They slow down play to a near ridiculous pace. Make the pros play with ball with less dimples.
Posted by mjp dibben at
18/05/2018 11:18 AM
after playing with a guy( 23 handicapper) who even used a rangefinder from 40 yards out I would suggest banning them in favor of the simple gps, which is adequate for the ordinary hacker
Posted by ian findlay at
17/05/2018 08:59 PM
Distance measuring equiptment should be limited to GPS and laser measurement should be banned as it wastes a lot of time. Balls should be modified so that they don't go as far as they do now,shorter shots are less likely to go astray and so would speed up play.I wonder how many of the balls used by pros are checked after a tournament is won to ensure they are legal. Also as a comment there should be a severe limit on the time spent by pros in putting as it sets a very poor example with amateurs off a 20 handicap can be seen marking their ball and lining up a line on the ball with the direction they want to hit it then walking to the hole and then back to 10 metres behind the ball readjusting the ball and finally putting
Posted by Mike lowry at
17/05/2018 08:31 PM
It seems that those who commented on GPS devices did not take time to read the article. It was about current hitting distances and what could be considered in this regard. As of mid seventies age group from which it seems that a significant group of golfers now come from, I consider it necessary for the future of golf that we do not look at increasing the length of courses (which most clubs could not afford anyway) but rather make them 'friendly' and 'attractive' to good sport and good companionship. It is nice to finish a round without realising that "I could have had much more fun if I had self flagellated".
Posted by PJ at
17/05/2018 07:10 PM
It wouldn't be fair to stop amateurs using distance-mesuring devices, when the pros get a caddy, a full book containing measurements of the details of the course, plus the position of flags for the day. I'd be happy to give up my GPS if the pros go around without a caddy and have to lug their own equipment
Posted by Greg Cox at
17/05/2018 06:38 PM
I can't see why the average golfer should be denied the use of GPS distance measuring devices when the Pro's have access to all the information about green speed, green slopes etc. which is available to us
Posted by Ian McKenzie at
17/05/2018 06:24 PM
We should not be agonising about the professional game making courses obsolete - the courses are becoming obsolete for THEM but they are fine for the rest of us. Let them deal with the problem - after all it is their problem. And in the meantime us amateurs just carry on like we always have done.
Posted by Kevin at
17/05/2018 04:30 PM
Pga tour players should be able to use a gps to speed up play as 5-6 hours is way too long. Players with a handicap are always told to take no longer than 3-4 hours for a round, also I believe the Broomstick putter rules should revert back to being able to anchor. More players win with the short putter than the long putter, so there's not much advantage.
Posted by Kevin at
17/05/2018 03:21 PM
I don't believe we should have GPS devices at all , given that the majority of courses have a 200 MTR marker, a 150 MTR, and a 100 MTR marker, why do we need them at all. I'm a 5 handicapper and don't use one, yet I see players with a much larger handicap using these on a regular basis. One example was my fellow competitor was just under the 100 MTR marker and used his GP's, I said to him your about 99 out he replied 98 should I say more? This is only one example, speed up the game for all our sakes.
Posted by keith lindsay at
17/05/2018 09:41 AM
golf course length and architecture should concentrate more on the mug golfers enjoyment not for creating torment and not just in case a golf course may one day be the host of an infrequent if at all major tournament. more players will play if they are enjoying themselves rather than feeling punished. Bunkers directly in the front of greens or in the middle of a fairway could be designed by anyone you don't have to be a guru . Any idiot can make a hole ridiculously hard by making it of ridiculous length. Good shots should be rewarded not punished.
Posted by Mike Shearer at
16/05/2018 07:14 PM
I believe, in these modern days and hence the technology available, that GPS devices should be allowed to be used at ALL levels of golf. I am a 68 year old, playing of 20 and have a basic 'Golf Buddy' device set to measure the distance to the middle of the green. It is a fantastic device who's accuracy is amazing. (It's a pity that a large percent of my shots aren't as amazing). Golf rules need to move along with the present days. cheers Mike Shearer
16/05/2018 05:56 PM
Only male pros hit it a long way so let them get on with it. The vast majority need all the help they can get.
Posted by Garry Kind at
16/05/2018 05:29 PM
The professional ranks are the reason classic golf courses are being lengthened, bunkers added, greens set at 12 plus on the stimp meter. When intelligent concerned luminaries Jack Nicklaus, Peter Thompson advocate the balls distance should be restricted for professionals then the ruling bodies need to listen. It doesn't matter much to us mugs, we have handicaps to compensate, and grand classic courses would be relevant, bombers would still have an advantage, they always will, but slowing the ball is now overdue.
Posted by Jeff Ellis at
16/05/2018 12:08 PM
Slows down play. Should be banned from players home course at least.

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